You do not need an MB branded phone. As stated (somewhat at length, I'm afraid) in the first post, you need to be sure you have compatible firmware. Some newer Verizon firmware is not compatible. Check with AWS, as was advised. You may have a length of time under which you may return the RAZR if its firmware is not compatible and compatible firmware cannot be loaded.
I still cannot get the BT PUCK to interface with my phone. Before I go off the deep in, I have one more question. I notice that when I attempt to make a call with my old V60 phone in the cradle, I do not hear any sound when I press the number buttons on the command console. The phone will dial the person that I am calling but I cannot hear them. Also, I notice that the ding, ding sounds that you normally hear when you start your car, now sounds like a ting, ting sound. Could any of this be related to the problem that I am having with my PUCK and Razr phone?
Ben, I believe you have the wrong cradle. The proper V60 cradle looks like the one in the phone bulletin at http://phdwebsite.powerpulse.cc/Phon...ins/S%2003.pdf As I recall, you said in a different series of posts that "I have a 2001 430 with an upgraded PSE so that I can use the V60 phone. I brought the MB puck and a Motorola RAZAR V3m. I cannot get the PUCK to connect with the phone or the command center. I get a tele. error message. I have the V60 cradle that is picture in the first post."
I should have looked more closely. if indeed you have the cradle that was in the first post in that string (http://www.benzworld.org/forums/audi...-adapter.html), it is the wrong cradle and will not work with the MB puck. I believe that is the source of your problems. That cradle, as the string pointed out, was for an aftermarket V60 installation.
You said you had upgraded your phone system to a v60 configuration. as that string also pointed out, you would have had to replace the PSE, not just the cradle.
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Ben, I believe you have the wrong cradle. The proper V60 cradle looks like the one in the phone bulletin at http://phdwebsite.powerpulse.cc/Phon...ins/S%2003.pdf As I recall, you said in a different series of posts that "I have a 2001 430 with an upgraded PSE so that I can use the V60 phone. I brought the MB puck and a Motorola RAZAR V3m. I cannot get the PUCK to connect with the phone or the command center. I get a tele. error message. I have the V60 cradle that is picture in the first post."
I should have looked more closely. if indeed you have the cradle that was in the first post in that string (http://www.benzworld.org/forums/audi...-adapter.html), it is the wrong cradle and will not work with the MB puck. I believe that is the source of your problems. That cradle, as the string pointed out, was for an aftermarket V60 installation.
You said you had upgraded your phone system to a v60 configuration. as that string also pointed out, you would have had to replace the PSE, not just the cradle.
I really appreciate your help in solving my problem. I will order a MBZ v60 cradle and hopefully that will fix the problem.
Last question, there is alway one last question Can you help me with the this problem concerning my Command console? I attempt to make a call with my old V60 phone in the cradle, I do not hear any sound when I press the number buttons on the command console. The phone will dial the person that I am calling but I cannot hear them, but they can hear me. Also, I notice that the ding, ding sounds that you normally hear when you start your car, now sounds like a ting, ting sound. Any idea on what might be causing this problem?
The same cradle is required for the V60 phone as is required for the V60 Bluetooth puck, in order to work with COMAND. If you were using the cradle pictured (as referenced above) and your V-60 worked, it may have been connected to a comletely separate aftermarket system. It should not have worked or integrated with COMAND - unless, perhaps, it was used with a MikBox. If that was the case, and you upgraded to a V60 PSE, the MikBox would likely have been removed. That could possibly cause the problems you describe.
I am only guessing now - without a detailed description of your installed equipment, or seeing it in person, I can only respond with conjecture - which is likely to waste time for both of us.
The main thing is, with a V60 PSE and the proper V60 cradle, your V60 puck should integrate your Bluetooth phone with COMAND. When you order your cradle, you should determine what PSE is installed, just to be sure of what you have. The V60 cradle for a '02 or '03 model year will work with the connector in your car. However, the '04 S-Class used a V60 cradle with a different kind of connector (FAKRA). Be sure you order the right one.
The same cradle is required for the V60 phone as is required for the V60 Bluetooth puck, in order to work with COMAND. If you were using the cradle pictured (as referenced above) and your V-60 worked, it may have been connected to a comletely separate aftermarket system. It should not have worked or integrated with COMAND - unless, perhaps, it was used with a MikBox. If that was the case, and you upgraded to a V60 PSE, the MikBox would likely have been removed. That could possibly cause the problems you describe.
I am only guessing now - without a detailed description of your installed equipment, or seeing it in person, I can only respond with conjecture - which is likely to waste time for both of us.
The main thing is, with a V60 PSE and the proper V60 cradle, your V60 puck should integrate your Bluetooth phone with COMAND. When you order your cradle, you should determine what PSE is installed, just to be sure of what you have. The V60 cradle for a '02 or '03 model year will work with the connector in your car. However, the '04 S-Class used a V60 cradle with a different kind of connector (FAKRA). Be sure you order the right one.
The PSE model number is Q6820845. I will purchase the V60 cradle and see if that works. Do you know where I can purchase the cradle at a reasonable price?
You do have an Autosense PSE - one that was used in model year 2003. The V60 cradle part number for it is Q 682 770 (the kit number with the cradle holder included is Q 682 0724), which was used in both MY '02 and '03 cars. I would try the dealer first, and e-bay second. The '03 phone bulletin on Paul's site has color photos and also might help you determine if you need any other parts. Phone Bulletins, select 2003 S-Class.
if you don't find the actual cradle on e-bay, I suggest e-mailing some of the folks marketing the V60 Bluetooth cradle adapters to see if they have the cradle itself in stock.
You do have an Autosense PSE - one that was used in model year 2003. The V60 cradle part number for it is Q 682 770 (the kit number with the cradle holder included is Q 682 0724), which was used in both MY '02 and '03 cars. I would try the dealer first, and e-bay second. The '03 phone bulletin on Paul's site has color photos and also might help you determine if you need any other parts. Phone Bulletins, select 2003 S-Class.
if you don't find the actual cradle on e-bay, I suggest e-mailing some of the folks marketing the V60 Bluetooth cradle adapters to see if they have the cradle itself in stock.
My RAZR cradle instructions from AWS say specifically that up to four RAZRs may be paired (though not simultaneously - the BT unit searches first for the last phone paired). However, I doubt thet the BT component of the cradle is unique to the RAZR; my bet is that any phone with approved (compatible) firmware would pair successfully - but of course, the cradle will only allow docking of the RAZR.
actually, the RAZR BT cradle will *only* pair with RAZR phones. similarly the SLVR cradle only pairs with SLVR phones. i found this out the hard way while modifying a SLVR cradle to hold and charge a KRZR. the phone will complete the pairing process but will not be able to connect.
personally, to me this seems rediculous as they intentionally limit the usability of the system. (e.g. you say one driver has a razr and the second driver has some other BT phone). i have not yet had a chance to perform any diagnostic testing to determine why this is the case but i believe that the cradle is looking for model specific information and disalowing any phone that is not the designed model for the cradle.
anyway, i hope this helps for anyone considering getting this cradle as opposed to the standard bluetooth puck. if you get the RAZR cradle, you are going to be stuck using a RAZR. same for the SLVR cradle.
Thanks, Rob - that's in direct contrast to what AWS told me on the phone, but is consistent with the printed instructions that came with the RAZR cradle. As to marketing a system with such a limitation, I completely agree with you.
I'm also not enamored of the fact that (at least with the RAZR cradle) you have a choice to make regarding use of your voice dialing capabilities. If you program names into your car's voice control unit for voice dialing, the names disappear from the COMAND display and MFD in your downloaded Bluetooth phone book, and the numbers associated with those names appear as numbers only at the end of the phone book list. The names and numbers remain in the phone - but this seems a rather stupid conflict that should have been resolved before marketing the device. Of course, one can still speak a number and dial it without problems - but I find it easier to recall names (gee). Film at 11 (see http://www.benzworld.org/forums/audi...ownloads.html).
My plug-in V710 worked without that limitation and has much better signal strength when undocked than the RAZR does. I may revert, and just carry the bulky V710 when I need to. The BT "convenience" isn't worth the hassle.
I saw and ad for the V60 cradle short coil-cord # Q6820833 or Q6820899 is this the same as the Q6820724?
I don't know, Ben - but based on the information I have provided so far in this string you should be able to peruse the phone bulletins on Paul's website and make the determination. It means opening them one by one and finding the cradle/kit number and seeing which cars it was used with and which PSEs it is compatible with, but that's what I'd have to do to answer the question.
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Can you help me with the this problem concerning my Command console? I attempt to make a call with my old V60 phone in the cradle, I do not hear any sound when I press the number buttons on the command console. The phone will dial the person that I am calling but I cannot hear them, but they can hear me. Also, I notice that the ding, ding sounds that you normally hear when you start your car, now sounds like a ting, ting sound. Any idea on what might be causing this problem?
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