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Originally Posted by lecchilo  No one was lecturing you, simply defining certain terms, such as a full detail... a full detail consists of EVERYTHING from wash/dry, to clay, to polish, to sealant, and the rest like tires, trim, wheels, etc. what you did and what you noted above in the 9 steps, is a simply wash & wax, where you wash and clay a car, then apply wax.. that's all (btw, I REALLY hope you're not doing step 1 and 2 in that order, unless you wash, clay, wash) |
It's still a full detail in my book. It appears the terminology is the issue here, because the way I note details is like this :
Quick detail
Full Detail
Complete Detail
A Complete detail is what I think you're referring to because if I do anything above washing/wheels/tires that's a full detail because I go ahead and vac, QD, etc...on a Complete detail I'll do all those things extra things you have like polishing, but I rarely use sealants because frankly I don't think they are neccessary unless it's being applied to a show car or garage queen. Reason being, that if it's gonna get dirty in 2-3 days anyway from pollen and road grime and it hides swirls like you said it's just a waste of funds. In MY opinion.
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As for your complaints, or lack thereof, there are 100s of businesses across the country thriving on people's lack of knowledge when it comes to detailing cars and proper paint correction and maintenance... meaning just because you're not getting a single complaint, doesn't mean you're doing a good job, and as dumb as that sounds, it's unfortunately true... I've personally had a bunch of people, who actually cared for their cars, come so I can correct $100-200 "full detail".. However, I'm not saying you're one of those "hacks" in the detailing industry doing horrible work and shining up the car temporarily.. we might have a misunderstanding here and that could be all, but based on what you've typed on here and your process, it makes me think otherwise...
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I agree. but I don't get complaints for a reason. I don't leave until they are satisfied. I ask questions and let them respond. "do you see any issues that I need to correct"...things like that.
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I have one request... post some photos of your and your clients' cars, in direct sunlight, without any wax/polish/etc. rather a car that's just been washed, clayed, and dried... if possible... this way I can say I'm wrong and go my merry little way...
For reference, here are two examples of a hack job, which I had to correct...
Porsche 2002 996 C4S
Porsche 2003 911tt
Click on after photos to see how they looked later, without any sealant to hide swirlmarks... I'm not the greatest detailer, but that's what a proper full detail consists of
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I posted one of my C280 that I did like that. I clayed/washed(ajax)/and dried it and took the pic in daylight. it's in the archives somewhere on here. I did that to show the difference between Ajax vs. Car shampoos off the shelf.
And there's no right "order" to clay your car. I pefer to clay/wash.
no need to wash/clay/wash. that may be your your style. but it's not the rule.
Also the "shine" on a car doesn't always mean a full detail/complete has been done to it, because some "hacks" as you put it,don't take care of the little things like the crumbs in the console, dusty door jams, dirty inside windows, etc... it's not all about the outside as I'm sure you understand.
I'll try to woo a few pics from clients and post them.
