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Old 03-24-2008, 05:51 PM   #502 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by A264172 View Post
I have a father in law who is as sweet a guy to his grandchildren, as they could ever wish for. He is also a hard headed verbal racist in the presence of his family, particularly in this time of a black Presidential candidate. I will still go (yesterday) to his home for Easter dinner. And when he says -(when "have you ever tried collard greens" becomes part of a conversation)- "If Obama gets elected you'll have to eat those all the time"... then I will disagree with him as politely as I can. Whether it's through a doubtful look and tilt of the head, or a "there are good and bad people of every sort" remark.
What I think about 'black' people and 'white' people being no different than star-bellied Sneeches vs. those that have none ~in all that matters most~ in the end, won't change 'his' thinking on the matter. But his grandkids get indoctrinated by me on that, and they know without a doubt how I feel about judging people based on their race.
As a grandfather to them he does the yeoman's work quite well as Byrd and Thurmond did perhaps for their constituencies, but I only get to have my say on Pennsylvanian politicians.
I do believe, that when confronted with offensive thoughts, "I disagree" is a better start than "go to hell". And even if I can't change him, I know there is someone in some circumstance that can. Though that day may never come, it can't kill us to prepare for it.

Hope that's not too incoherent.
Makes good sense on a personal level. Perhaps we also agree that there maybe a different standard for elected office or appointed office. In those particular cases the individual *must* exhibit a higher standard or threshold, in my opinion.

Concerning Obama, I wouldn't vote for him because he is a socialist and I think socialism is anti-liberty. I think Clinton is no difference in any meaningful way. At least McCain is not a socialist, but he is a big gov Republican of the Nelson Rockefeller, Richard Nixon, George HW & George W Bush. Not much value in my book.

Over the next 6-8 months I have no doubt that more and uglier revelations, both true and false, will work its way into the media. Obama's peculiar public embrace of his spiritual advisor, a bigot, is a tough hurdle to overcome. Clinton's indefensible assertion of danger in the Balkans and McCain's shaky cognition is going to result in a contest of pygmies. F**k'em all.

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